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Le phénomène des anti-fans et des fans sasaengs

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Le phénomène des anti-fans et des fans sasaengs

Messagepar Shirubi » Lun 12 Nov 2012 15:49

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Re: Le phénomène des anti-fans et des fans sasaengs

Messagepar Carolus » Lun 26 Nov 2012 14:03

Je viens de lire l'article que tu as partagé. C'est effrayant. Je n'arrive pas à comprendre qu'on puisse tomber dans ces extrêmes. Que ce soit les anti fans ou les sasaengs ils ne valent pas mieux.
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Re: Le phénomène des anti-fans et des fans sasaengs

Messagepar Shirubi » Lun 26 Nov 2012 14:52

C'est clair, c'est effrayant. Personnellement je ne comprendrais jamais ce genre de fan. Même si je suis fan de certains BG, je ne permettrais jamais d'empiéter sur leur vie privée.

C'est comme ceux qui viennent aux séances de dédicaces avec des demandes en mariage.
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Re: Le phénomène des anti-fans et des fans sasaengs

Messagepar misami_hirota » Lun 3 Déc 2012 14:14

Woah c'est vachement extrême. Au Japon, il y a un équivalent, les oriki (les méga-groupies) et les yarakashi (plus agressives), mais je n'ai jamais entendu parler des choses aussi extrêmes que les messages ensanglantées et le boycott général. Je pense que ça vient d'une part du caractère des japonais? Ca vient également du fait que la vie privée des idoles japonaises sont mieux protégées et il y a un groupe d'anti-yarakashi qui suivent leurs idoles justement pour éviter les incidents (au final elles sont toutes des stalkers par contre XD)
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Re: Le phénomène des anti-fans et des fans sasaengs

Messagepar Ichigo. » Sam 5 Jan 2013 13:41

Ya ha, ça fait peur T^T Les pauvres idols n'ont plus de vie privé... Il y a des fans quasiment tarés, dans le monde D: Sérieux, ça me fait peur. Les photos des lettres écrites avec le sang m'a fait froid dans le dos. Ces gens là n'ont plus de limites, ils foncent. La vidéo ou une des membres des SNSD se fait enlever... Brrr.
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Re: Le phénomène des anti-fans et des fans sasaengs

Messagepar cinnamon-chan » Sam 5 Jan 2013 22:54

Non mais de toute façon les fans coréennes c'est des tarées !des Elfs ont quand même acheté des actions de la SM pour pas que Henry et Zhou mi soient rajouté au groupe ! et il a fallu limite attendre que Kyuhyun ai eu son accident pour qu'elles l'acceptent (oui bon je généralise, mais j'exagère à peine )
et puis dire qu'il y avait des pétitions pour que les T-ara se suicident >.<.
et puis malheureusement il n'y a pas qu'en Corée (l'illustration parfaite de ce phénomène, c'est quand même l'assassinat de John Lennon...)
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Re: Le phénomène des anti-fans et des fans sasaengs

Messagepar Ichigo. » Dim 6 Jan 2013 11:31

Ca m'a aussi un peu fait penser à une fan de Lady Gaga qui, pour imiter la robe en viande de son idole, à découper son chat pour en faire un vétement >o< Affreux ...!
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Re: Le phénomène des anti-fans et des fans sasaengs

Messagepar Shirubi » Lun 11 Fév 2013 17:16

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Re: Le phénomène des anti-fans et des fans sasaengs

Messagepar Nico Robin » Lun 11 Fév 2013 23:39

Ah oui effectivement, c'est du n'importe quoi. Je me demande ce que sont des anti-fans. Des adultes ou des gosses ?

Je crois que Kim Yu Jeong (Moon / Sun) a aussi des haters.

Il faut dire que le star system coréen fait que les acteurs, actrices et chanteurs en général sont très proches des fans. Alors que chez nous y a ribambelles de gardes du corps, là-bas, cela ne semble pas trop être le cas. Je suis un peu envieuse de cette proximité mais c'est pas pour ça que j'irais stalker ma star dans ses moindres gestes.

A mon avis y a beaucoup de frustrations parce qu'en Corée, la réussite passe par l'argent et le métier que l'on fait... Les jalousies peuvent donc apparaître avec ceux qui réussissent.
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Re: Le phénomène des anti-fans et des fans sasaengs

Messagepar Shirubi » Sam 14 Déc 2013 16:55

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Re: Le phénomène des anti-fans et des fans sasaengs

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Re: Le phénomène des anti-fans et des fans sasaengs

Messagepar Shirubi » Sam 14 Déc 2013 19:37

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Re: Le phénomène des anti-fans et des fans sasaengs

Messagepar Miknass » Sam 28 Déc 2013 20:09

Assez terribles, ces articles, en effet... Je me demande comment on en vient à ce degré d'obsession. Car là, c'est pathologique, clairement.

Allez, je vais jouer l'avocate du diable : les maisons de disque, l'entertainement est-il à l'origine de ces débordement ? A force de jouer la carte de la proximité, à coup de photos, réseaux sociaux, les stars deviennent plus proches de nous; et puis, dans leurs chansons, elles nous parlent, elles font des poses sexy pour nous... qu'en pensez-vous ?

Moi, bien entendu, je pense qu'on ne peut pas lier ces activités - qui font partie du business ! - avec les dérives de certains "fans"... d'ailleurs, le mot vient de fanatique, c'est peut-être pas pour rien. Mais bon, aujourd'hui, quand on parle de fan, on ne fait pas allusion au fanatique. Moi aussi qu'on devrait clairement séparer les "groupes" : les fans, au sens de passionnés, et les autres. Ceux-là ne sont pas des fans !

Je ne connais pas du tout l'univers de la K POP. ça ne m'empêche pas de compatir pour ces artistes victimes de harcèlement, bien au contraire ! Ce sont des êtres humains. C'est terrible, mais j'ai l'impression que tous ces harceleurs l'ont oublié ! Ils sont tour à tour agressifs, violents... ils dévisagent leur star comme s'il s'agissait d'un extra-terrestre... La rançon de la gloire ? Non ! Comme vous le dites, il y a plein de fans qui ne se comportent pas comme ça, heureusement... ! Mais le problème reste entier... je me demande ce qu'on pourrait faire pour contrer ce phénomène.
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Re: Le phénomène des anti-fans et des fans sasaengs

Messagepar Shirubi » Sam 28 Déc 2013 22:22

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Re: Le phénomène des anti-fans et des fans sasaengs

Messagepar Miknass » Mer 1 Jan 2014 20:32

Moi, ça me fait penser au chanteur de SMAP, Takuya : quand il s'est marié, une fan s'est suicidée, si je me souviens bien... Certains disaient que c'était de sa faute. Le pauvre, il ne peut pas être amoureux ?

C'est malheureusement la règles, chez les idoles (je prends l'exemple des Johnny's). Sur leurs relations intime, c'est langue de bois et compagnie ! Bien sûr, ils aiment presque tous le même type de fille/garçon : gentille / protecteur ! C'est ça ouais (c'est surtout très vague). Du coup, les fans peuvent s'identifier en ce disant : "ouais, il/elle m'aime !"

Quand on lit leurs interviews aussi, on a la sensation d'être plus proche d'eux : on connaît leurs goûts vestimentaires, culinaires, leurs "petits" secrets (sont-ils seulement vrais ?), des anecdotes sur leur enfance... Certains partagent leur vie quasiment au quotidien via messagerie (je pense à Yamapi, particulièrement rigoureux dans l'exercice ! :boxe: )

Mais je n'arrive pas à expliquer comment certains fans "débordent". Parce que bon, ces stars restent des êtres humains ! Bien sûr, elles tombent amoureuses, elles font des bêtises, elles mentent, elles vivent !
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