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Not Equal : Yaoi

[manga] Not Equal

Qu'est ce que le yaoi ? C'est un sous-genre du shôjo qui met en scène des relations amoureuses entre deux hommes. A noter : cette section regroupe les mangas shonen ai et yaoi.

[manga] Not Equal

Messagepar Kalante » Mer 2 Jan 2013 15:20

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Re: Not Equal

Messagepar Maella » Mer 2 Jan 2013 23:13

Je vais pouvoir poster un commentaire :p

A ma plus grande surprise, j'ai A-D-O-R-E du début à la fin ! J'ai vraiment eu du mal à m’accommoder par contre... Le sujet est vraiment très très sensible, mais il est tellement bien mené.
C'est vraiment super touchant, même si un peu compliqué et parfois brouillon.
Je trouve que c'est la meilleur surprise 2012 dans la catégorie yaoi. Par contre, il n'est vraiment pas à mettre dans toutes les mains.
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Re: Not Equal

Messagepar misami_hirota » Mar 8 Oct 2013 22:43

Je rejoins l'avis de Maella. J'ai relu ce yaoi récemment. Les émotions que j'ai ressenties sont aussi fortes qu'à la première lecture. Le sujet est très difficile à aborder, c'est vraiment courageux de la part d'Ike Reibun d'écrire dessus. Il y a d'autres yaoi abordant ce sujet mais en essayant de le balayer sous le tapis, en le banalisant ou tout simplement en l'ignorant complètement. Not Equal attaque ce tabou de front avec tellement de sincérité que je ne trouvais pas la relation entre les deux personnages malsains. Le côté fataliste de cette romance le rend encore plus dramatique et intense. La touche fantastique avec le voyage dans le temps est cohérent et forme bien un tout avec le reste de l'histoire.
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Re: Not Equal

Messagepar bidib » Mer 22 Jan 2014 17:34

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Re: Not Equal

Messagepar misami_hirota » Jeu 23 Jan 2014 00:12

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Re: Not Equal

Messagepar Maella » Ven 24 Jan 2014 01:12

Je rejoins Misa, je ne suis pas d'accord non plus. Surtout que la plupart des histoires incestes yaoi sont légères et n'aborde pas le sujet comme l'a abordé Not Equal. On a rarement vu des histoires père/fils, et dans certains cas, les cas d'incestes étaient des "faux" (demi-frères par exemple).

Ici le sujet est abordé d'une manière poignante qui dépasse tout ce qu'on a pu lire (le peu de manga présent traitant réellement d'inceste). Là on se pose des questions, on y réfléchit au lieu d'y passer 30 secondes
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Re: Not Equal

Messagepar bidib » Sam 25 Jan 2014 09:35

Personnellement, j'ai lu beaucoup d'histoire d'inceste, c'est pour ça que je ne trouve pas le sujet très original. Même si vous avez raison on parle le plus souvent des relation entre frères (faux ou vrais) ou avec un beau-père. Le thème reste le même. Je l'ai vu si souvent apparaître (même dans les shôjo) que j'en suis venue à me demander si ce fantasme n'avait pas une récurrence particulière dans la culture japonaise.

Mais j'en convient, ici la relation est traité avec plus de réalisme qu'habituellement et en cela l'auteur est original. La réaction du père me semble saine, et au même temps cela rajoute de la tragédie à l'histoire. Je préfère d’ailleurs le personnage du père au fils qui est trop naïf, trop spontané, il se pose pas trop de question sur le situation.

En tout cas, le seul reproche que je ferais à ce manga c'est le choix de la relation incestueuse. D'un part parce que ça me dérange et que je trouve pas ça du tout romantique. Et d'autre part... heu ben parce que je suis une vieille mégère réac... :oops:

J'écris, j'écris, et tout un coup je me dit qu'il y a un aspect de la relation entre les deux amants qui est ici très originale : la hiérarchie. Si le sujet est souvent traité (peut-être pas dans ce qui est publié en France, mais en général) mais la hiérarchie est est toujours inversée (du moins dans mon souvenir).
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Re: Not Equal

Messagepar Sherryn » Sam 25 Jan 2014 12:22

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Re: Not Equal

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Re: Not Equal

Messagepar misami_hirota » Sam 25 Jan 2014 22:59

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